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Tilling is bad...
by ncsuteg » January 4th, 2012, 4:39 pm
A common theme that I see is that tilling is not recommended. The backyard that I am planning to renovate to Bermuda (Celebration) in the spring is a mess though.
Rocks, roots, bumps, stumps, holes, rocks, rocks..... I found a guy that can "till" with a Bobcat and a Rockhound to a depth of ~6". This would be to remove the debris after the box blade does the smoothing.
Here is a link to the tool in action Click here for more information
It looks like it is very even, and I can go back over with a water roller after the sod chunks are down.
Any thoughts? Should I stop at the box blade and use a rake? This is for 9k sq feet so I want as much automation as possible.
Thanks all
Rocks, roots, bumps, stumps, holes, rocks, rocks..... I found a guy that can "till" with a Bobcat and a Rockhound to a depth of ~6". This would be to remove the debris after the box blade does the smoothing.
Here is a link to the tool in action Click here for more information
It looks like it is very even, and I can go back over with a water roller after the sod chunks are down.
Any thoughts? Should I stop at the box blade and use a rake? This is for 9k sq feet so I want as much automation as possible.
Thanks all
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Re: Tilling is bad...
by Michael Wise » January 4th, 2012, 4:57 pm
A lot of the no tilling talk is from moving microbes around in the soil to places they don't want to be. I know I'm probably way over-simplifying the microbe talk, but basically the guys deeper in the soil don't live on top, and the guys on top don't live deeper in the soil.
The other side, and the side I'm more familiar with, is settling after the soil has been disturbed.
That thing doesn't look like it is cutting anywhere near 6" deep.
If it is just scratching the surface, *maybe* an inch deep, I'd say its fine. Especially if you went back over it lightly with a roller like you plan.
Loosening up soil 6" deep will leave you very lumpy once it all settles. Regardless of rolling. My irrigation trenches(deeper than tilling @ 12-15") settled into the next year. That was even after my driving back over them with a tractor.
The other side, and the side I'm more familiar with, is settling after the soil has been disturbed.
That thing doesn't look like it is cutting anywhere near 6" deep.
If it is just scratching the surface, *maybe* an inch deep, I'd say its fine. Especially if you went back over it lightly with a roller like you plan.
Loosening up soil 6" deep will leave you very lumpy once it all settles. Regardless of rolling. My irrigation trenches(deeper than tilling @ 12-15") settled into the next year. That was even after my driving back over them with a tractor.
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Re: Tilling is bad...
by simpson » January 4th, 2012, 5:56 pm
Like said above if you till 6 inches deep your going to have major settling. Tilling is going to do nothing for roots. If they are still attached to the tree then thats even worse. Everyone has rocks in there yard under the soil. If it is making a spot of grass stress before the rest just dig that spot up. I would just fill the low spots and work with what you have.
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Re: Tilling is bad...
by texasweed » January 4th, 2012, 6:50 pm
If you are grading with a trator and box blade, there is no good reason to till if the box blade has scafers.
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Re: Tilling is bad...
by simpson » January 4th, 2012, 9:14 pm
Drink to much coffee tonight Texas you got crazy with the enter button.
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Re: Tilling is bad...
by texasweed » January 4th, 2012, 11:21 pm
Nah not sure what happened, but I can fix it.simpson wrote:Drink to much coffee tonight Texas you got crazy with the enter button.
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Re: Tilling is bad...
by Dchall_San_Antonio » January 5th, 2012, 1:49 am
99% of everyone who is rototilling will use a hand held machine. Those things bounce around and cannot be controlled like a tool on a tractor. I'm not big on Bobcats because of the short wheelbase, high center of gravity, and small wheels, but if you are just pulling a tool with it then fine. Tractors are much more stable and work faster if you have a box blade. There is a rototiller tool for a power take-off (PTO) on a tractor. That does a nice job, but those are hard to find. All the professional landscapers use a small tractor with the box blade to prep the soil surface.
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Re: Tilling is bad...
by Jackpine » January 5th, 2012, 4:19 am
9K sq ft and full of debris? Use the rock hound to save time and your back.
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Re: Tilling is bad...
by Hotrod » January 8th, 2012, 12:10 pm
Jackpine wrote:9K sq ft and full of debris? Use the rock hound to save time and your back.
I'd use the rockhound one day, water extensively over night, then use the boxblade the next day. 9k is alot of property.
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