Needing ID on these evergreens
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Needing ID on these evergreens
What are these exactly. I need to replace the 2 that died from that last ice storm or whatever killed them off. I want to buy the exact same ones to replace them.


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JC Paint Workz - Posts: 674
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Re: Needing ID on these evergreens
Can you give us a tighter close-up? They're definitely Thuja, and I suspect Green Giant (standishii x plicata), but I can't be certain.
Edit: They could be Emerald Green Thuja as well due to the lack of feathering at the branch edge.
Edit: They could be Emerald Green Thuja as well due to the lack of feathering at the branch edge.
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Re: Needing ID on these evergreens
yes sorry on lunch ill snap some closeups the pic was larger in PhotoBucket then its showing here weird... sorry posting shortly
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Re: Needing ID on these evergreens


Also would like to know what is or could be killing the bottoms. It was like this before I started my Reno so its not the weed/grass killer, Not sure what it would be

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JC Paint Workz - Posts: 674
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Re: Needing ID on these evergreens
I also would like to know what exactly this is, I'm not sure where to put this as its more of a grass. I want to buy more and place on the other corner of my house where I cut down my tree. I would like to know what it is also. Thanks!!




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Re: Needing ID on these evergreens
I'm staying with Thuja standishii x plicata (Green Giant Thuja) as my call on those. The edges are more feathered than I thought from the distance shot.
That looks like mechanical damage, actually, but it could be from hot weather as well. I occasionally get a touch of brown, but usually because it's dropping that particular frond to divide it and grow into two. That doesn't look the way growth changes do.
The third is a pure guess--maiden grass? If so, it's really healthy. There are hundreds of species of ornamental grasses, though, so it's hard to tell and I'm not an expert on those.
That looks like mechanical damage, actually, but it could be from hot weather as well. I occasionally get a touch of brown, but usually because it's dropping that particular frond to divide it and grow into two. That doesn't look the way growth changes do.
The third is a pure guess--maiden grass? If so, it's really healthy. There are hundreds of species of ornamental grasses, though, so it's hard to tell and I'm not an expert on those.
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Re: Needing ID on these evergreens
So is this Evergreen the same types that HD and them sell. I'm hoping it is as the previous owners were kinda subpar at what they did quality wise. So I'm thinking nothing came from nurseries and all from big box stores.
On the grass I cut it about 1" from the bottom root all the way down in the late fall or early spring and it grows back that fast in just a few months. Its really nice stuff. But when it starts to die at the end of the year it turns into a straw/hay like plant and gets stiff.
On the grass I cut it about 1" from the bottom root all the way down in the late fall or early spring and it grows back that fast in just a few months. Its really nice stuff. But when it starts to die at the end of the year it turns into a straw/hay like plant and gets stiff.
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JC Paint Workz - Posts: 674
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Re: Needing ID on these evergreens
Also I've heard I can section off 1/4 of that grass and transplant it else where and it will mature and grow just like whats pictured. If thats the case I could just do that and make the one thats there a little smaller (its getting huge) and just add the 1/4-1/2 to the other corner of the house
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JC Paint Workz - Posts: 674
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Re: Needing ID on these evergreens
JC Paint Workz wrote:So is this Evergreen the same types that HD and them sell. I'm hoping it is as the previous owners were kinda subpar at what they did quality wise. So I'm thinking nothing came from nurseries and all from big box stores.
On the grass I cut it about 1" from the bottom root all the way down in the late fall or early spring and it grows back that fast in just a few months. Its really nice stuff. But when it starts to die at the end of the year it turns into a straw/hay like plant and gets stiff.
Yep, you'll find them everywhere and they're very common. I got mine from a nursery who basically said, "Yeah, got tons, what size do you want?" when I called to ask for them.
I tend to leave my grasses up over the winter for a little interest, but it's no problem mowing them down, either. Whichever you prefer is fine.
Also I've heard I can section off 1/4 of that grass and transplant it else where and it will mature and grow just like whats pictured. If thats the case I could just do that and make the one thats there a little smaller (its getting huge) and just add the 1/4-1/2 to the other corner of the house
You can, they divide beautifully. Take half if possible as the existing plant is getting kind of large anyway, and do it in spring just as it starts to sprout. Keep both halves well-watered and lightly fed through the year, and expect shock.
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Re: Needing ID on these evergreens
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Re: Needing ID on these evergreens
After some thought, I should point out that my Zebra grass divides easily and now has many daughters all over the tri-city area. Some of those daughters probably have daughters themselves. One I dug out and couldn't find a home for sprouted in the corner for two years straight before I finally chopped it up and discarded it.
Maiden grass is more touchy. It does tend to shock more, but eventually makes it through the transfer if cared for a bit. My transplant is on its second year and doing fine, although last year was no great shakes.
Maiden grass is more touchy. It does tend to shock more, but eventually makes it through the transfer if cared for a bit. My transplant is on its second year and doing fine, although last year was no great shakes.
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MorpheusPA - Posts: 12719
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Re: Needing ID on these evergreens
+1 for Maiden Grass (Miscanthus sinensis).
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Re: Needing ID on these evergreens
MorpheusPA wrote:I'm staying with Thuja standishii x plicata (Green Giant Thuja) as my call on those. The edges are more feathered than I thought from the distance shot.
I googled those and they are huge. Are you sure thats what this is. I havnt trimmed these in 2 years since I moved in and they havnt grown much. I've fertalized them (with vigoro evergreen spikes) but dang those pictured are really tall these are 6' tops. Could that be just cause they arnt mature enough to be tall as some picutred? I just dont want to buy the wrong things lol
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JC Paint Workz - Posts: 674
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Re: Needing ID on these evergreens
Yep, they can get huge--a theoretical 80 feet tall. They don't tend to do that when planted close together, though, as they compete with each other for resources. You'll see the tallest ones grown as single specimen tree/shrubs in open parkland, not generally in rows.
I have a stand of fifteen on the back line, now about eight feet tall, at age 2 1/2. But I feed them constantly and heavily. With the distances I chose, 20 to 25 feet will be the maximum height at maturity.
While "fast growing," they don't grow quickly if not fed (or not in full sun which doesn't apply here). A foot a year max, and they can be trimmed. If fed, three to five feet a year post establishment is possible.
I have a stand of fifteen on the back line, now about eight feet tall, at age 2 1/2. But I feed them constantly and heavily. With the distances I chose, 20 to 25 feet will be the maximum height at maturity.
While "fast growing," they don't grow quickly if not fed (or not in full sun which doesn't apply here). A foot a year max, and they can be trimmed. If fed, three to five feet a year post establishment is possible.
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Re: Needing ID on these evergreens
Ok cool. Better safe to ask first. Btw (take it easy on this one lol) do you just trim with normal electric shears? I've never shaped or trimmed them yet as they have been holding shape pretty good.
And what fert do you use, Milo?
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Re: Needing ID on these evergreens
Electric shears should be fine. The only consideration is that a branch should never be cut bare--there has to be greenery left on it. If bared, the branch won't re-grow and leaves a nasty hole until (and if) surrounding branches grow over the top of it.
How do I feed them...let me count the ways...! Miracle-Gro once a week, Milorganite and soybean meal when I do the lawn (extra double-handfuls get thrown around the bushes). 29-0-3 in spring, summer, and fall.
All synthetic feedings get cut off on August 15th as new growth will continue for some time yet before the feeding peters out, and that needs time to harden off before winter. Figuring growth continues until Labor Day, that still gives it a solid five to seven weeks before frost.
How do I feed them...let me count the ways...! Miracle-Gro once a week, Milorganite and soybean meal when I do the lawn (extra double-handfuls get thrown around the bushes). 29-0-3 in spring, summer, and fall.
All synthetic feedings get cut off on August 15th as new growth will continue for some time yet before the feeding peters out, and that needs time to harden off before winter. Figuring growth continues until Labor Day, that still gives it a solid five to seven weeks before frost.
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Re: Needing ID on these evergreens
Dang. Yea no wonder mine are small. I thought those spikes were doing good. Your feedings are more then I eat lol jk. Good to know thanks. I'll be feeding them better when I plant a few more
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Re: Needing ID on these evergreens
They do eat more than I do, but at 145 pounds that's not difficult. 
Spikes are practically useless. They deliver too much fertilizer around the spike, and none at all further out. The best use for those is to grind them up and scatter them over the surface of the soil, then buy something that'll actually work.
Spikes are practically useless. They deliver too much fertilizer around the spike, and none at all further out. The best use for those is to grind them up and scatter them over the surface of the soil, then buy something that'll actually work.
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