Wet corn gluten meal....

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Wet corn gluten meal....

Postby Michael Wise » July 1st, 2011, 4:31 pm

......STINKS!!!!

Got a good deal on some today, so I bit.

Got it home and found out why it was on sale. It had previously gotten a little wet and now it smells to high heaven.

Is it OK to put out?

Most of it is dry. There is probably about a pound clumped up in each bag.

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Re: Wet corn gluten meal....

Postby andy10917 » July 1st, 2011, 4:37 pm

Oh, a little Ergot never hurt anyone. Did you watch "Children of the Corn"?

Just kidding. It should be fine. If the clump is too tough to break up, put it into the compost heap.
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Re: Wet corn gluten meal....

Postby Michael Wise » July 1st, 2011, 4:41 pm

It smells like a giant cat took a giant dump in the back of my truck. The Mrs. will be SO excited when she gets home tonight. :D

Thanks for the help, Andy!

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Re: Wet corn gluten meal....

Postby MorpheusPA » July 1st, 2011, 5:32 pm

Except in this case it'll be He Who Has Hallucinations Behind The Rows.

Don't eat or even breathe that stuff. Ergot is nothing to play with.
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Re: Wet corn gluten meal....

Postby andy10917 » July 1st, 2011, 5:38 pm

Yeah, except Ergot is a dry-storage thing.

The lawn ain't the problem. The one-in-a-million risk was the ride home, breathing it.

Go buy a Lava Lamp, just in case you get trippy.
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Re: Wet corn gluten meal....

Postby southerncalpal » July 1st, 2011, 5:40 pm

it doesn't take long to turn. I thought I'd SAVE some for a week or 2 later, and ended up almost throwing up the smell was so bad after a rain. Straight into the compost that bag went.
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Re: Wet corn gluten meal....

Postby bpgreen » July 1st, 2011, 6:46 pm

I thought ergot was a fungus that grew on rye. Does it grow on corn, too?

As for how serious it is, I think LSD is basically synthetic ergot.
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Re: Wet corn gluten meal....

Postby jglongisland » July 2nd, 2011, 10:57 am

bpgreen wrote:I thought ergot was a fungus that grew on rye. Does it grow on corn, too?

As for how serious it is, I think LSD is basically synthetic ergot.


I used to take methysergide for cluster headaches (don't think you can get it anymore), funny to think it might have been derived from stuff we put on the lawn.

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Re: Wet corn gluten meal....

Postby Michael Wise » July 6th, 2011, 12:05 am

The smell subsided within a day.

At our neighborhood 4th of July party, one neighbor asked if I put something that smelled bad on the lawn the other day. :D The smell carried further than I thought.

So, I'll probably stay away from the wet stuff from now on. BUT, the normal price is $7.95 for 50 lbs.!

I assume it is like any other meal, and can be used whenever my budget allows. This correct? No special guidelines for it?

If not, I've found my new staple for the lawn as long as that price stands.

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Re: Wet corn gluten meal....

Postby MorpheusPA » July 6th, 2011, 12:13 am

No special guidelines, no limits on usage. $7.95 for CGM is unbelievably cheap.

It works out to a 9-0-0 feeding, so you'll need about 11.1 pounds per thousand for 1 pound of nitrogen.
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Re: Wet corn gluten meal....

Postby Michael Wise » July 6th, 2011, 12:23 am

By the checkout counter they had "lawn fertilizer" CGM regularly $25 on sale for $10 in a 30 lb. bag.

That was when I asked about CGM for "feed".

After talking a bit they told me about the wet "lawn fertilizer" and offered it to me for less than the per lb. price of "feed".

Knowing what I know now, they would have kept the wet stuff and I would have came home with "feed". :D

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Re: Wet corn gluten meal....

Postby Dchall_San_Antonio » July 6th, 2011, 10:57 am

There are two different products. One is corn gluten meal. The other is corn gluten feed. The feed has much less protein in it. Either product can be used as animal feed, so hence the confusion.
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Re: Wet corn gluten meal....

Postby Michael Wise » July 6th, 2011, 2:43 pm

Thank you, David!

I'll look into it, but given your description, I'd bet what I found is the lower protein stuff. Hence the low price.

Thank you for the clarification.

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