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bpgreen · by **bpgreen** » August 31st, 2010, 2:22 am

Dchall_San_Antonio wrote:Trent, MO is not what Morph said. OM is organic matter. Milorganite is just one form of organic fertilizer. When we talk about OM in the soil we are usually talking about fertilizer and compost on the soil, but we are also implicitly including roots and microbes in the soil.

OM is Organic matter, and it may be fat-fingered as MO, but MO is also used as an abbreviation for MilOrganite.

So MO could well be Milorganite, or it could be a mistyped OM (Organic Matter).

trentp · by **trentp** » August 31st, 2010, 9:01 am

Dchall_San_Antonio wrote:Trent, MO is not what Morph said. OM is organic matter. Milorganite is just one form of organic fertilizer. When we talk about OM in the soil we are usually talking about fertilizer and compost on the soil, but we are also implicitly including roots and microbes in the soil.

I just reviewed this entire thread and saw your pictures for the first time. The turf should be much more dense than it is. Do you think that is because you plugged the grass in instead of laying larger pieces? If so then it will should be filled in by next season. If not then I would hit it hard with fertilizer. 10-20 pounds per 1,000 is not enough. If you have applied a chemical fertilizer, I would still come in with some alfalfa or soy at at least 20 pounds per 1,000. It should spread much better with more protein.

I see where I got it twisted, he did originally say OM, not sure why I thought he said MO. Think it's a problem?

The plugs were actually planted rather than just being placed on the surface, if that is what you were asking. I am not sure why the plugs haven't been filling in a little more by now. I put a starter fertilizer in each plug hole, 6 weeks later I hit the yard with a 16-4-8, and about 6 weeks after that another 16-4-8, and a few treatments of miracle grow lawn feed.

My county agent told me I should water 3x weekly for 2.5 hours per zone, so this is where the disease started. Could the disease be the reason the grass is still not dense?

Latest fertilize
2 weeks ago - 16-4-8
Saturday 8/28 - 20lbs per/1000 corn meal
Monday 8/30 - 20lbs per/1000 Milorganite

Think this is efficient for now?

Dchall_San_Antonio · by **Dchall_San_Antonio** » August 31st, 2010, 4:11 pm

Where would a county agent come up with that watering advice. I thought I'd heard them all.

New grass, whether it is seed, sod, or plugs, should be watered briefly (10 to 15 minutes), 3x per DAY, for 2-3 weeks. Then you can back off until you are watering an inch (more or less) per week, 1x per week. Unless you have pure sand, you would have very soggy soil watering 2.5 hours 3x per week. Also the county agent's regimen would have washed away all your fertilizer very quickly.

Yes the disease could be the problem as well as washing the fertilizer away. I would not expect it to be as dense as sod laid at the same time, but it should be looking better.

The fertilizer you applied recently should be great.

trentp · by **trentp** » September 4th, 2010, 6:37 am

MorpheusPA wrote:
Nope. Hold the 10-10-10 until September 12th. You struck it with a synthetic feeding already and overdoing that would be bad.

Should I hit the lawn with another 15lbs/1000 of SBM on the 12th as well?

MorpheusPA · by **MorpheusPA** » September 4th, 2010, 10:09 am

You can if you want--they don't directly interact, the SBM won't be available until three weeks later at the minimum, and any extra organic material is always a plus.

trentp · by **trentp** » September 4th, 2010, 11:02 am

Thanks, Morpheus. Very thankful for all of your advice!

MorpheusPA · by **MorpheusPA** » September 4th, 2010, 11:15 am

I see where I got it twisted, he did originally say OM, not sure why I thought he said MO. Think it's a problem?

Sorry, I missed this.

OM = Organic Matter
MO = Milorganite

Fortunately, Milorganite is also organic matter. Corn is organic matter, but is not Milorganite. :-)

Dropping Milorganite is almost never an issue, and it isn't an issue here. Drop at will.

trentp · by **trentp** » September 4th, 2010, 11:34 am

MorpheusPA wrote:
I see where I got it twisted, he did originally say OM, not sure why I thought he said MO. Think it's a problem?

Sorry, I missed this.

OM = Organic Matter
MO = Milorganite

Fortunately, Milorganite is also organic matter. Corn is organic matter, but is not Milorganite.

Dropping Milorganite is almost never an issue, and it isn't an issue here. Drop at will.

Dropped it and smellin it haha. Ready for 3-4 weeks to pass to see how things are going.

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