standing in the parts room one day, I was reading the label on an aerosol cleaner that came with a thread lock kit, it said, "contents contain substances know to cause cancer in California", the foreman starts laughing and says, "well dumb@ss, this is Missouri". (Missouri logic?)

reading the booklet that came with a bottle of OrthoMax lawn&garden insect killer it list vegetables and fruits and the number of days to wait after spraying until harvest/consumption--one column for the world and one column for California. (example-- corn, 1 day in the world, 18 days in Ca., tomatoes, 1 day in the world, do not use in Ca.)

seeing as how I'm still in Missouri, can I give the garden a spray of Bifenthrin 0.3% (hose end spray bottle) and still eat the tomatoes?

Dude, you ain't in California.

California is...a little oddball about a lot of things, although it does tend to lead the nation in environmental legislation. Some of what they do eventually goes national because it's a great idea. Their emissions standards tend to lead, for example, and it has helped with the smog problem.

Much of what they do stays in California because these people are nuts.. At times, anyway.

You should do what makes you feel comfortable. If it were me? I always triple the time to consumption recommended for my state. Plus wash the stuff, knowing that it does little for pesticides (but much to remove the amoebas that wouldn't mind giving me dysentery).

Is it supposed to be for organic use?

Ortho bugbgon, no don't say nothing about organic, most of the copy is about killing over 150 insects. here, this stuff--
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Okay. I was curious about why you posted in the Organic Lawn Care forum.

The label says to wait 1 day before harvest (unless you live in Calif).

What insects are you having problems with?

I had tomato horn worms this year for the first time in a long time. I sprayed them one time with BT and immediately they assumed the posture in this picture.


You can see at the tip of the stem where this one had been feeding previously. They stayed frozen in that pose for the rest of the day. The next day they had all moved but had not been feeding. The next day they all were much smaller and one had turned a blackish green. The fourth day they had disappeared.

BT is a disease to caterpillars which causes them to stop feeding. Around here they call it 'lock jaw.'

There are other organic sprays that are effective on tomatoes. What do you have going on?

you know, I should have posted this on the Around the Yard board. other than ants and some kind of little black with white stripes beetle thingy I don't know what the boss is concerned about, have to wait untill she gets home. if there weren't any major concerns with the BugBGon, I was just going to spray the garden(I know this stuff works on ants), check it off of my todo list and on to cocktail time. be back latter.

ants, lots of ants and something that eats leaves, my wife got out the insect pest book and they kind of look like "bean leaf beetles" or "cucumger beetles". book says to hit them with Rotenone. Click here for more information