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Best way to kill this to keep roots from spreading

Postby JC Paint Workz » August 17th, 2011, 1:59 pm

I cut this willow down as it was way close to the house and the way it was rooted it was angled to the foundation and I didnt want to chance it somehow cracking my concrete foundation. So its gone now. My buddie said if I dug around the stump some he could bring the chainsaw back over and get it lower to the ground but he didnt want to mess up his saw. So what do you recommend the best way to kill this stump would be.

I plan on putting some grass type plants around it to add color and I'm going to be planting my beds soon just havnt had the money or time yet.

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Re: Best way to kill this to keep roots from spreading

Postby andy10917 » August 17th, 2011, 2:01 pm

"Kill" or "remove"?
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Re: Best way to kill this to keep roots from spreading

Postby JC Paint Workz » August 17th, 2011, 2:03 pm

andy10917 wrote:"Kill" or "remove"?

umm... lol well lets say how easy is it going to be to remove.

I was thinking kill as the grass like plant I was going to plant "around" it would hide it very well. Or I was just going to get a fake hollow rock and place over that and my sewer access opening. I just dont want the roots to keep growing and harming anything, as that was the reason I cut it down!
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Re: Best way to kill this to keep roots from spreading

Postby andy10917 » August 17th, 2011, 2:23 pm

Without a stump grinder it is going to be very hard to remove.

I don't know whether Willows tend to sucker after being cut down or not. Painting the cut stump regularly with RU or Triclopyr can stop that often, but you have to keep up on it.
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Re: Best way to kill this to keep roots from spreading

Postby JC Paint Workz » August 17th, 2011, 2:33 pm

Ive been looking at the stump remover stuff you pour on tree stumps does this stuff work? I was even thinking of getting a long auger bit and drilling down in there and then pouring that stuff in the holes
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Re: Best way to kill this to keep roots from spreading

Postby andy10917 » August 17th, 2011, 2:58 pm

Ive been looking at the stump remover stuff you pour on tree stumps does this stuff work?


It accelerates the decomposition process a bit. We used to make the thing porous with it and then soak it with diesel oil and it would burn slowly (more like a charcoal ember thing), but that is outlawed in many places now -- and not bright near the house anyway.
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Re: Best way to kill this to keep roots from spreading

Postby JC Paint Workz » August 17th, 2011, 3:46 pm

andy10917 wrote:
Ive been looking at the stump remover stuff you pour on tree stumps does this stuff work?


It accelerates the decomposition process a bit. We used to make the thing porous with it and then soak it with diesel oil and it would burn slowly (more like a charcoal ember thing), but that is outlawed in many places now -- and not bright near the house anyway.

Yea thats what my GC said. He said just put some kerosen on it and burn it then he seen how close to the house it was and said scratch that idea.

So you think the stump killer will work to keep it from growing/rooting more? I'll have it trim it down to level with the ground and that will be good enough I just dont want for it to continue to spread
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Re: Best way to kill this to keep roots from spreading

Postby andy10917 » August 17th, 2011, 4:00 pm

You're going to have that stump for 5-7 years or so. The roots won't grow without a food source from the (goner) leaves.

Decaying it with Stump-Out will speed the process some. Using RU and/or Triclopyr will keep it from generating suckers. It is what it is.

PS: Expect to have mushrooms in 2-3 years in that area when it is warm and rainy.
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Re: Best way to kill this to keep roots from spreading

Postby JC Paint Workz » August 17th, 2011, 4:17 pm

andy10917 wrote:You're going to have that stump for 5-7 years or so. The roots won't grow without a food source from the (goner) leaves.

Decaying it with Stump-Out will speed the process some. Using RU and/or Triclopyr will keep it from generating suckers. It is what it is.

PS: Expect to have mushrooms in 2-3 years in that area when it is warm and rainy.

Too bad they arnt morels those are good eating. I guess ill drill holes add stump killer couple times a year and spray it will my left over Big n Tuff. Get me a fake rock or plant that grass around it

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Re: Best way to kill this to keep roots from spreading

Postby simpson » August 17th, 2011, 4:48 pm

Drill holes as deep as possible in it. Fill with stump removal and top with high nitrogen fertilizer. If you can keep it moist add a bag over the top. It wont take long for the top to rot away

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Re: Best way to kill this to keep roots from spreading

Postby JC Paint Workz » August 17th, 2011, 4:57 pm

simpson wrote:Drill holes as deep as possible in it. Fill with stump removal and top with high nitrogen fertilizer. If you can keep it moist add a bag over the top. It wont take long for the top to rot away

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So like starter fert?

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Re: Best way to kill this to keep roots from spreading

Postby simpson » August 17th, 2011, 5:12 pm

High nitrogen that's the first number. Just whatever you have around. If you only have starter that's fine. Do like 4 holes two with stump removal and two with fertilizer

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Re: Best way to kill this to keep roots from spreading

Postby MorpheusPA » August 17th, 2011, 9:33 pm

Keep in mind that willows are famous for sucker-sprouting from roots if the roots aren't dead yet. Mind those as well and cut or Round Up each one. They don't tend to do it for long, and that tree didn't look huge, so I doubt it'll be much of a problem--if any at all.

That's really low enough to the ground now as-is, and you can hide it with something planted next to it. I did that with my dogwood stump, the Jane magnolia went in right next door. Although still there, you don't see it at all.
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Re: Best way to kill this to keep roots from spreading

Postby bpgreen » August 18th, 2011, 12:26 am

Willows are very soft wood. My dad had a willow that was about 3 feet across when he finally cut it down. He had a great idea and asked the guys who cut it down to leave about three feet of the trunk. He sanded that smooth, applied a couple of coats of varnish and had a table.


For about a year. It rotted away in nothing flat. There was no trace of it a few years after he had it cut down.
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Re: Best way to kill this to keep roots from spreading

Postby Seven333 » August 18th, 2011, 8:12 pm

I just had 6 stumps ground down about 6 inches below the surface. Took the guy like 15 minutes...$200 well spent in my opinion. Those trees were probably removed 5 to 10 years ago and were barely rotted. I was very tired of having to mow around them. If you can swing it, have them ground down.

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Postby Ohio2112 » August 18th, 2011, 8:29 pm

Maybe look at renting a stump grinder. My buddy did it and was able to grind down a bunch of stumps he had pretty easily.

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Re: Best way to kill this to keep roots from spreading

Postby JC Paint Workz » August 18th, 2011, 11:04 pm

I'm not worried about the sight of it I'm worried about it growing/rooting more and end up messing the foundation of my house, and it turning into a 10k foundation job to fix the broken slab in my office. I just picked up some stump killer/remover and a extension bit for my spade bit. I wasnt going to spend 30 for a auger bit when I'm just doing a few holes so I got a 15" extension for my 1" spade bit Ill drill as far as possibly 5-6 holes put the stump killer in 2-3 and high nitrogen in the other 2-3 and I'm going to spray it with my BigNTuff (Gen. roundup) and cover with a bag. We'll see how it does. I wish it wasnt close to the house I'd soak it and burn it out!
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Re: Best way to kill this to keep roots from spreading

Postby simpson » August 18th, 2011, 11:07 pm

Add water to the fertilizer holes also.

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Postby JC Paint Workz » August 18th, 2011, 11:10 pm

simpson wrote:Add water to the fertilizer holes also.

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OK, you think it would help adding water to the stump killer too? I still have yet to read the label! its granule form
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Re: Best way to kill this to keep roots from spreading

Postby JC Paint Workz » August 18th, 2011, 11:15 pm

I also found some high nitrogen fertalizer thats 30-10-10 called orchid feratlizer, and i found another one thats 21-7-7 High nitrogen+chelated micros on ebay. Either of these worth buying. Or am I thinking to hard and is there something big box stores or my local nursery has cheap?

Edit: I found this on ebay too would this work it seems to be pure nitrogen lol 1LB Nitrogen Fertilizer Urea 46-0-0
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